Can you imagine a life where you're not only obedient to your faith, but also fully trusting the wisdom of divine plans? My friend, Chris Jacobson, the Young Adults Director at Cstone Church, and I take a thought-provoking journey into the biblical story of Abraham and Lot. We uncover valuable lessons about obedience, faith and letting go, with surprising relevancy to our modern lives.
Have you ever considered the impact of partial obedience? How it can lead to unnecessary drama, complications, and even derail your life's journey? Chris and I investigate this through the lens of Abraham's decision to bring Lot on his journey. We explore how our desires can sometimes lead us astray from God's plan, and the importance of full trust in His wisdom. We also delve into Abraham's journey of letting go, drawing parallels with familiar experiences we often face when we need to relinquish something in our lives.
Finally, we lift the veil on the dynamic Young Adults group at Cstone Church. Chris gives us a glimpse of the transformative power of teachings, word, and accountability within a community. He shares the details of the group's hangout events, their celebrations of victories, and the close fellowship they share. If you're on a quest for spiritual growth and transformation, tune in to our discussion. I guarantee these insights from Chris Jacobson will provide the inspiration you're looking for.
Can you imagine a life where you're not only obedient to your faith, but also fully trusting the wisdom of divine plans? My friend, Chris Jacobson, the Young Adults Director at Cstone Church, and I take a thought-provoking journey into the biblical story of Abraham and Lot. We uncover valuable lessons about obedience, faith and letting go, with surprising relevancy to our modern lives.
Have you ever considered the impact of partial obedience? How it can lead to unnecessary drama, complications, and even derail your life's journey? Chris and I investigate this through the lens of Abraham's decision to bring Lot on his journey. We explore how our desires can sometimes lead us astray from God's plan, and the importance of full trust in His wisdom. We also delve into Abraham's journey of letting go, drawing parallels with familiar experiences we often face when we need to relinquish something in our lives.
Finally, we lift the veil on the dynamic Young Adults group at Cstone Church. Chris gives us a glimpse of the transformative power of teachings, word, and accountability within a community. He shares the details of the group's hangout events, their celebrations of victories, and the close fellowship they share. If you're on a quest for spiritual growth and transformation, tune in to our discussion. I guarantee these insights from Chris Jacobson will provide the inspiration you're looking for.
You are now listening to. Let's Talk with Kelvin Newkirk Jr. You know it's a blessing to know someone who desires to be an agent for change and people's spiritual walk. A passion for spiritual change is something that I believe every generation needs and in a few moments you're going to have a chance to hear a conversation I had with an agent for change as being a blessing to all generations. He's the Young Adults Director at Seastone Church in New Bern, north Carolina, and he's a good friend of mine. So let's hear the conversation I had with Chris Jacobson. Chris, welcome to the show, brother. How are you doing today?
Speaker 2:Yo Kelvin, what's up? Man, I'm really happy to be here today. I'm doing really well. How are you?
Speaker 1:I'm doing great man. I'm doing great man. It's a blessing, bro. So I know you personally. There's a lot of people who are going to be listening to this show that know you also, but for some of my consistent listeners they don't really know you that well. So what I want you to do is I want you to please tell the people about yourself and what do you do as Young Adults Director, and also just explain some of your vision and some of the goals and the mission that you have for the Young Adults at Seastone, new Bern.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah, my name is Christopher Jacobson. I am the Young Adults Director at Seastone Church and I'm originally from Canton, ohio. But basically, yeah, the vision of the Young Adults Ministry is to just grow personally and build a community to help develop dependence on the word of God, the Holy Spirit, and we demonstrate relationships with one another and we demonstrate a life rooted in Jesus Christ. So the goal is just to build an obedient, focused and committed followers who would not only trust him but submit to his authority. That's pretty much what we're about at Seastone Young Adults, and we try to fall in line with Seastone's vision for Pastor Jake as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, that's awesome. I'm a part of the Young Adults group too, so I've seen it first hand. The Lord has his hand on the Young Adults, not just in New Bern but, I think, all over the world. But I believe that man God is doing something so special at Seastone Church and I'm going to say this a lot throughout the show, and I'm not just biased, because we both go to Seastone Church and we're both on staff at Seastone Church. What I'm saying is that man God is doing something great man.
Speaker 1:So if you're in the area, if you're in the New Bern area like New Bern, havelock, like any of those areas, jacksonville man, feel free to make the trip and to come to Seastone Church in New Bern, north Carolina, or in Moorhead City. You will not be disappointed by the experience that you have, first of all with the Lord and secondly with his people. Also, I will say, if you're a young adult in between the ages of 18 and 30, man, come to Young Adults, man, you won't be disappointed in the experience that you're going to get. So, like I said before, like I'm a part of the Young Adults group, I'm at our church. I mean, I heard you preach a sermon. That's actually the inspiration behind this episode today and I thoroughly enjoyed it, and so it's basically based on the story of Abraham and Lot. So can you just describe, like, like, what was that inspiration there? Like, like, what drew you to that story?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Abraham and Lot is my favorite favorite story in the Bible. So when I first became a Christian, it was like one of the first stories that I was reading about because I was starting in the book of Genesis for me, just because I thought it'd be better to start in the beginning. Yeah, I was a baby Christian, you know, but I was reading this story in Genesis, chapter 12, about the call of Abraham, and it was like the first time the Lord like ever revealed to me in the word and I was just like really trying to understand it. You know, and it talks about that story and it says you know the call of Abraham, leave your native country, your relatives and your father's family and go to the land that I will show you. And basically it was only five words in this text that really made me dive deep into it and the words were in Lot went with him.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:That's what led me to do this whole sermon, and it was just those questions that I had. I kept asking myself I'm like well, who the heck is Lot.
Speaker 1:You know, like he said to, leave your family.
Speaker 2:I'm like who were it just randomly put in there? And I'm like who's lot?
Speaker 1:like who in the world is that All right? Yeah, yeah, that's exactly yeah.
Speaker 2:So, basically, like that led me to do this, and like, when I kept studying the word even more, you know, I ended up finding out that Lot was Abraham's nephew, you know. And basically I'm like, well, that doesn't make sense, because I'm reading the word and it says in Genesis 12, right here, you know, leave your native country. He does that, leave your relatives. Okay, if that's his nephew, then why did he bring his relative, you know? And it says leave your father's family and go to the land that I will show you. And I'm like, well, Abraham's not fully obeying the Lord here because he's bringing his nephew, lot, with him.
Speaker 1:Exactly, exactly. So he's obeying a little bit, but he's not obeying all the way. It's like, hey, like you know, and sometimes I think we we get in situations like that where God calls us to do something and we can get so caught up in the relationships around us sometimes that we want to bring them into the blessing that God has for us specifically and maybe that sounds a little cynical for us sometimes as Christians, like there's a blessing that's just for me, that isn't, that isn't included with my relatives and stuff, and it's like, yeah, like sometimes there's blessings for you and for you only Like they're not for everybody else, they're not for everybody on your team or everybody in your corner. It's good to have those people there, but sometimes God wants to bring you out, to bring you into something better, and so I really have to ask you this because I do like I know your story. We talk all the time Like was there ever a lot in your life personally?
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, absolutely. And yeah, I was in the Marines from 2015 to 2019 and near the end of my Marine Corps life in 2019. It was the beginning of September. I got out in the end of September of 2019. And at the time I was just very homesick all throughout my Marine Corps life and all I wanted to do was go back to Ohio and be with my family and you know I had a lot of friends up there and just be comfortable, you know. And that's when I felt the Lord start impressing in my spirit to stay in New Bern and I was like, well, why would I do that, lord? You know, like I don't want anything to do with North Carolina. I didn't even like it here when I was here you know.
Speaker 2:So why would you keep me in a place that I don't like? You know? So I ended up doing like some fasting and I was really praying to the Lord. I'm like Lord, is this really the place you want me to be? You know, and I was. I kept doing that and like I really felt like the Lord was just telling me to stay here and basically I had to give up the lot of my home and I even afterwards, even after that, I still continue to make plans to go to Ohio. I still made the plans to go there and I made the plans. I had three job interviews lined up for me but some unforeseen like circumstance ended up happening like a week before I was supposed to go back to Ohio, and the Lord was like no, no, I'm definitely making you stay here, like this is where you're going to be at.
Speaker 2:So, even on my end, like that was one of my lots there's several dots I've had in my life, but you know, one of the biggest ones was like men. I had a big hatred for men and I know you know my story about that. But just my whole life, like with men, like I never trusted them and I gave them several chances and basically it would always end up in pain and hurt. And even when I first started coming to Seastone in 2022, I was very closed off to men because I didn't trust them. So you know, through a lot of prayer and like a lot of work, I didn't start liking men until after our men's retreat in October of 2022. And it wasn't until after that that I really really began to see the importance of having men in your corner.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly yeah, having people who can relate to you, yeah, like man, I love that you said that, that that before, before you spoke of like like an actual person, because sometimes, like people could take the Bible literally, which is good, right, and kind of hold weight with what the Bible says in a literal sense. But I think Lot also represents like a figurative thing, and you you spoke of like being homesick, and so Lot didn't represent like a person from Ohio, he represented your home in Ohio, right, and so, like I love that, because sometimes we get caught up around the person. We're like, oh well, there's a lot in my life, right, Like there's a person in my life, but really sometimes it could be a place, it could be a feeling, it could be an emotion, it can be that thing that you keep running back to that the Lord is calling you out of, and so I love that. You said that and you know man and I, like I know your story. So it's just super cool just to see that because, like you know well for one, you know sometimes as guys, you know we could be very barbaric in nature, you know sometimes. And so it's not, it's not necessarily a bad thing, like God has wired us that way, but sometimes it could come off very. It could come off in a very cynical and like bad way and sometimes, yeah, like sometimes you can, you can really be closed off to that. So, man, I just I think I think God for your story and because that's the first time I heard that, but I could definitely relate to that and like like a million different ways, bro, because sometimes you know we, you know you're a Marine, you know you play a little bit of high school football too. I don't think the people know that, but I'm just putting that out there. We did play a little bit of high school football too and play sports and everything's like that. So you know those settings people could be so barbaric, right.
Speaker 1:But, man, I'm just so thankful that you took a step of faith and said, hey, like I'm not going to let this lot stop me, I'm going to step into what God has called for me to do. So I also have to ask you a question too, because we talked about for a second, where you are obedient, right, because you're like, hey, I'm going to like, like I'm going to kind of do, lord, what you call me to do, but I just can't let this one thing go. And so you spoke about this thing that Abraham did, that you did. There's a time, there's multiple times in my life where I've done it, where you were partially obedient, and I remember in your sermon you said something about personal obedience that you said that partial obedience is the same as disobedience. It's still disobedience. Can you explain that, like? Can you explain what that means to you and why people should pay attention to that, why people should pay attention to the fact that partial disobedience is still the same as disobedience. It doesn't make a difference.
Speaker 2:Yes, absolutely yeah, partial obedience is still disobedience. You know, like we go back to the scripture in Genesis, chapter 12, right there, you know, like he tells Abraham the Lord calls Abraham out of his father's land, says leave your country, leave your relatives. So why did he bring a lot with him? You know, so, like, basically, he brings a lot with him and they travel into Egypt. Right, they left Egypt and traveled north into the Negev and he was with his wife, sarah, and then he had a lot, you know, and since a lot was traveling with that, like I know you talked a little bit about how we get bled, we want to bring people into the blessing. Well, a lot was blessed because he was with Abraham.
Speaker 1:But when you read on in Genesis, chapter 13.
Speaker 2:Right there, you know, it talks about it. Basically, all the livestock started having disputes and drama broke out between the herdsmen in Abraham and Lot and basically, you know, because Abraham was being partially obedient, like he was still going out to the place the Lord was calling him to do, to be, and basically the land wasn't big enough to support both of them and that's why all these disputes and drama broke out, because Abraham was trying to bring along somebody to his nephew with him as well, because he didn't under. He wanted to have somebody to give everything to. You know, and that's why all these disputes and fighting broke out, because the disobedience always delivers drama. And if you look at any situation in your life, you know and you feel like you're doing what the Lord's calling you to do and you have drama in your life.
Speaker 2:It's most likely because there's some kind of disobedience that you're still doing. You know, and God often calls us to leave that little G you know, little G, you know to follow the big G, which is the Lord.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, exactly Exactly. He calls us away from something. And so there's man. That is so good because, really, man, that area of partial disobedience this may give me a little trouble by saying this, but in a way, when we step out and what we think we call obedience and it's not full obedience, is really a dead work. Because the intentionality that we have, the mindset that we have, it may not seem cynical, it may not seem so centered, it may not seem idolatrous in the way that we're trying to worship what we want in our desires, but in a way it is, it is.
Speaker 1:It's a dead work because sometimes we bring people into the blessing that God wants for us and we bring other people in that because we want them blessed to, as if our plan is better than what God has. Right, we don't, we don't necessarily know right, because we I don't want to put a whole bunch of hypotheticals in the Bible or anything like that, but just putting it into real, like 21st century language, like like, yeah, sometimes we bring lots in the situations and it does more harm to us and to them. Rather, we would just let them and let God deal with them and let God have his way and that person's life Right. And so sometimes we can, we can try to be God in a situation where we're like, okay, the Lord gave me a word, but I'm going to include you in this word too and we're going to go Right and I want you to be blessed also, as if God can't bless them where they are either. So, like, I love that you said that, because, man, because sometimes we do that as people also and we, we have those situations happen and, man, this, this is a great conversation.
Speaker 1:I love that, but, man, I love that because it does create drama. It creates drama within ourselves, it creates drama around us, all because of a desire, right, all because of a desire that we, that that we have to lay at the foot of the cross, we have to lay that at the at Jesus' feet. We have to lay that desire, that thing, at Jesus' feet. Yeah, he's the only one that can fix that, can handle, that, can work with that situation. And then like, like, based on, based on your experience and your study, like of this story specifically, man, how do, how does it work, man? How do, how does our desires get us in trouble? Like, how does the things that we want and that we desire get us in trouble. I really want to stick on this one, because this is like one of the most important questions that I feel like I want to ask you on this episode.
Speaker 2:But man, oh yeah, man, like our desires, like, if so, you know, like in Proverbs 1312, you know it says a hope deferred makes the heart sick, sick, but a longing fulfilled produces a tree of life.
Speaker 2:And basically, like, if you have your hope into your desire, you know, and you're not getting your desire, you know your heart is going to be sick. And basically that's where we find Abraham at, you know, in Genesis, where he's traveling along with Lot and Sarah, and you know, like I kept asking myself, you know, why is Lot with him? You know, like they traveled and then all this drama started happening, you know, but like that's when I really started studying. You know Abraham's family tree, you know, and we know the story of Abraham. But you know, Abraham had a father named Tura, you know, and Tura had three sons. You know, one son was named Huron, you know, and Huron had a son named Lot. You know Abraham's nephew, lot, you know. He had another son named Nahor, and the Bible tells us that Nahor ended up getting married, so he's gone out of the picture. But basically, like we know Abraham's story and we know Abraham, all he ever wanted was a son. So I kept reading along in Genesis and in the Bible tells us that Huron ended up dying, you know. So Lot's dad died.
Speaker 2:So here you have Lot, who is fatherless, and then you have Abraham here who all he ever wanted was a son and he had to wait for so long to get a son, you know. So, basically, it took him 15 years. He had to wait 15 years to have Isaac. So, basically he Lot was there and he was fatherless. Abraham had a desire for a son. So that's why Lot was with him, you know.
Speaker 2:And then they had all these disputes and all this drama and like, basically, at that point in time, abraham had to let go of this desire. He had this desire for a son and he was like look, you know, and you know, abraham said something that shocked me, like in this text. You know, he said Lot, you decide. You know he had to let go to Lot. And he was like look, lot, you know I love you, but I have to let you go. And basically he was like Lot you decide, though. You know, if you go to the left, I'll go to the right, if you go to the right, I'll go to the left, but we can't stay together. You know, I love you, but we can't stay together. This disobedience of mine is causing drama. We have to separate. But he said you pick and you choose. You know, if you go to the right, I'll go to the left. And like it just shocked me Because I was like, who did the Lord call?
Speaker 1:The.
Speaker 2:Lord called Abraham and he's still letting Lot choose, and it was because of his desire for a son. That's why he was letting Lot choose. So, basically, god was saying to Abraham look, this is not how I'm going to fulfill this desire, abraham, because there is a son named Isaac that you don't know about, and he is the promised child, and I'm going to make you the father of many nations. So you cannot settle for what you think is a son, because this relationship I have not ordained, you know. So a lot of us in our real life are struggling with these things, and it's usually something that kills us to get rid of. You know, it could be like an addiction that we have it could be an ex-boyfriend or ex-girlfriend, you know.
Speaker 2:but that's like. We have legitimate desires and there's nothing wrong for a desire to be loved, right. But if you are a woman or a man and you have to do certain things for them in order for them to say I love you or for have them to do the things that you want, then that's not, that's an illegitimate connection, you know. So Abraham had to do what many of us have to do, and he had to look at his lot. You know his son at that point in time, because he was treating Lot as a son, because Lot had no father. But he had to say to him I love you, but we can't stay together. And that's what most of us have to do. And that's the greatest trick of the enemy he wants you to take a legitimate desire and he wants you to fulfill it the wrong way.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, he does. He does exactly. It says my friend in Proverbs 19, 21,. It says many plans are on a man's heart, but the purpose of the Lord will prevail. The purpose of the Lord will prevail. So many plans are on a man's heart, like many desires are on a person's heart. Many, many wants right are in a person's heart, man, but the Lord's purpose will prevail. The Lord's purpose will prevail. It's gonna prevail whether you want it to or not. It's gonna prevail whether you try to. Whether you try to, whether you try to, you know, maneuver it or twist it the way you want to, or not, like it's going to happen, it's going to prevail.
Speaker 1:The question is are you going to be included in the purpose that God has through your obedience? Are you going to get left behind? And that's just the reality of it. Sometimes I think we don't really think about that, because we sometimes in Christian culture, sometimes we can have this very like uber prosperity type of thing where, oh well, I'm always going to be included in God's plan. You are always going to be included in God's plan as long as you're obedient to what he has. There is a such thing as being disobedient to what God has and things not working out the way that they're supposed to work out. Like God's plan is going to happen, whether you like it or not. The question is, are you going to be on board of it or not through your obedience?
Speaker 1:And it says in part, verse 16, 9,. It says a man's heart plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps right. So you know, it's like you said before it's healthy for us to have desires, but what we have to do is we have to let the Lord direct our steps. We have to let the Lord show us where to go, because we don't know where to go. We don't know what to do for ourselves. We need the Lord, right? I can't even think of what to wear half the time in the morning, let alone make a serious life decision. So you know, that's why we need the Lord to help us guide. He needs to guide us on where we're going to go and what we're going to do. I mean, I love that man, because our desires can always get us in trouble If we make it idolatry, if we turn it into another God, into a little G, like you said before, and so like, oh, are you going to say something?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean like it's just come on, it's just funny that people like they'll say like you know, partial obedience is still disobedience, and it's funny because a lot of people will treat you know God's commandments as suggestions. Exactly, you know.
Speaker 2:it's just like a parent, you know the parents tell us, you know, oh, don't touch the stove, it's hot, you know. And then the kid touches the stove and they burn themselves. You know how many of you know that the parent didn't burn the kid Exactly? It's disobedience, you know, and that's in any way in our life and like a lot of people will be like oh, you know, yeah, well, maybe the Lord wanted me to rob that store so I could go to prison and I could get into prison ministry and I'm just like what?
Speaker 2:I'm like no the Lord wanted you to be obedient and like. It's the same thing, like with people in school. Sometimes you know like, or women that have been pregnant in school. They'll be like oh well, maybe the Lord wanted me to be pregnant in high school so I can be an example to young ladies out there and show them that you could be pregnant and get straight A's. And I'm like no, the Lord wanted you to wait till marriage.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:But God can get glory out of any kind of situation. You know, and if I didn't answer the call to be a young adult leader, God wasn't gonna wait for me and wait till I was like okay, Lord, I'm ready. You know he was gonna. Yes, His will doesn't stop. So he was gonna use somebody to fulfill that spot, even if I didn't answer that call. So I just wanted to say that real quick, that's all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true, though that's 100% on the money. Like God has a purpose and a plan for each and every one of us, is our job to be obedient in it. Right, he has a plan, right and we all work together to make his plan happen. But but we don't all like it's not that God makes his plan around us. No, we are supposed to be obedient to what God wants to do, to what God wants to how God wants to move and what he wants to do in our life. So we got, I got one more question for you, Chris, and this is going to be the catch. All this is going to be the main thing. So what practical advice would you give to someone who has a lot to lose, who has a lot in their life that they need to lose, a dead weight that they need to lose in their life?
Speaker 2:Oh man, yeah, that's like one of the hardest things that you'll ever do. And you know, with someone that has a lot in their life, you know, like our desires, like they do get us in trouble and it's one of the hardest things that you'll ever do and I can't promise that it will ever be easy, you know. But you know, abraham, he had to look at his lot and he had to look at his nephew lot and he had to let him go.
Speaker 2:The best thing to do is to be confrontational with your lot, you know and you have to look at them and be like look I I'll just use a real life example and like it could be a woman with a boyfriend who is just cheating constantly. You know, she loves him so much, you know, but she keeps giving him chances and then he just keeps failing over and over and she, at some point you know it's not until the pain outweighs the pleasure. Usually that's when she will make the decision to be like look, you know, like I love you, but you're stopping me from growing, and like I'm just always in constant pain because of your, of this disobedience you're doing.
Speaker 2:You know, and it's just, it's one of the hardest things that you'll do. And but what I can promise you is, when you are confrontational with your lot, whatever it is, with your addiction or anything like that, I can promise you that there's blessings on the other side of your obedience. You know, and if you don't believe me, like you could go read the story in the Bible yourself. You know, and it's in Genesis, chapter 13. You know, after Abraham, you know, looked at a lot and you know, whatever the direction lot chose, you know this, this is what the Lord does. And he says, after lot had gone, you know, after lot had gone, after Abraham did something so painful but it was necessary, you know, after he looked at his lot and said I love you, but you can't stop my purpose. You know.
Speaker 2:It says look as far as you can see, in every direction, north and south, east and west. I am giving you all this land as far as you can see, to you and your descendants, as a permanent possession. I will give you so many descendants that, like the dust of the earth, they cannot be counted. Go and walk the land in every direction, for I can break. I'm giving it to you. And like that there's blessings on the other side of your obedience, and like if you have a lot in your life and you know it's distracting you from the Lord, you know, like that verse right there, like that, that little song we used to sing Father Abraham had many sons that song, that was a blessing that came from this verse and it came after. Abraham said I love you, but I will not let nothing separate me from my God and the purpose he has for me. So there's obedience on the other side, there's blessings on the other side of your obedience and it's nothing like you've never seen before.
Speaker 2:And it might not happen right away. I mean, abraham still had to wait 15 years for his son, isaac, to be born. Everything's in the Lord's timing and the Lord's just trying to instill something into you before he gives you that certain desire, right? But like all those things, like I just can encourage you to be confrontational with that lot. Like if you know it's bad for you, like I just encourage you to be confrontational with it. You know, and God will say you know he is every single thing that you need and there's nothing that I tell you to give up. That will not be worth it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly. And so I got my mom. I was telling someone the other day it was just talking I was like man. I was like I was like, if you were in a hot room, you would turn to a seon. If you were in a cold room, you would turn the heat on. Why? Because, man, if you, if something is making you uncomfortable, if something is hurting you, you're gonna make a change if it's hurting you bad enough and not and not downplaying the hurt that we feel in things that are in our Life. But, man, if we, if we're so numb to it, right, ever so numb to the cold, right, that we can't that, that we don't really need the heat anymore. We're so, ever so numb to the, to the heat, that we don't really need the AC on anymore. Guess what? That's why you need people around you. It's gonna say yo, bro, it's hot in here, we need some AC. Yo, sis, yeah, hold in here, we need some heat.
Speaker 1:Like, like, if you can't see it yourself, build community around you and it's gonna help you. See the things that's wrong with you. That friend that's telling you that he keeps hurting you, ladies, she's not a hater, she's really trying to help you guys, this, that, that, that guy that wants you to stop watching porn and wants you to stop and wants you to stop man, doing these different things. Man, he's not. He's not. He's not hating on you, man, he's not. He's not being a buzzkill like that guy. Is trying to help you because he loves you. And that's why we need community around us, because it's gonna. They're gonna show us the things that are hurting us. They're gonna show us the pain points in our life if you don't see them. So that's why we need them, man.
Speaker 2:Chris.
Speaker 1:I agree, chris, man, I man, you've been such a blessing today. You've been amazing man. I can't wait for everybody to hear man, this transformational conversation has took place. Chris, just tell me, tell, tell everybody, like what, what goes on with young adults? Like, what time is young adults when do we meet at? Because I want people to know, like, where we meet, what time we meet, so they could come and join us man in a great time in the Lord. Also, can you let the people know that real quick?
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, we meet Sundays at six o'clock at Seastone Church most of the time but in our group chat Basically, like when we meet, like we just dive deep into God's word, and usually every third Sunday of the month we do like a hangout event. You know we celebrate, you know people there's a lot of pregnant girls in our group right now like we want to celebrate that too. You know we celebrate the wins and it's just such close fellowship within the group and I'm just really happy to see how the Lord has been working through this group and Ever since I took over in February, like I've just seen how people have grown and there's just huge testimonies because of the group. You know, so if you're a young adult there and and you feel like you have no one or you don't have any friends at the moment, like I promise you like the Seastone young adults like will welcome you with open arms and if you allow it, you know we Will just transform your life.
Speaker 2:You know, like through the teachings, through the word and Through the people that are in the group. You know it's about that accountability with one another. You know we depend on one another and we depend on the word of God and we depend on the Holy Spirit, like that's what it's all about. So I would just encourage you to come on out and see us, you know. And if you don't believe me, you know, just come out and see it for yourself, absolutely absolutely, absolutely, man.
Speaker 1:Amen, guys, check this out if you're in the area and come See us at young adults, man, sundays at six o'clock. We want you to come to service to right at 11 am, but we also want you to come to 6 pm Young adults a night man every Sunday, 6 pm. If something changes, you'll know right if it's your first time coming. But, man, chris, thank you so much for joining me today. Man, I just want to say man, thank you, man, and be blessed.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having me, kelvin, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, man. Thank you so much, man. Once again, thank you so much for joining us for this episode. Man, if you enjoyed this episode, do me one favor share, share. With that being said, I catch on next week. Goodbye.